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Reader Comments: Mirrorless System Choice (Nikon Mirrorless, Canon Mirrorless, Sony Mirrorless, Medium Format)

See my Nikon mirrorless wishlist.

Glenn K writes:

Got to say, I am glad I don't have to make a quick decision on a camera.

Zeiss Loxia 25mm f/2.4

The Zeiss Loxia lenses, for landscape work, seem to be a big feather in Sony's cap. And the Sony A7R IV will bring new improvements and probably a higher resolution sensor. For someone like me, with no current stable of glass, it would seem foolish to bet against Sony/Zeiss.

Unless or until Canon makes a breakthrough in sensor technology, it's hard to see anyone else getting very far ahead of Sony in sensor performance since they are doing all of the fab work for Nikon, Fuji and others.

The Sony G-Master series also shows they can compete handily in the AF lens arena. Nikon would be smart to sign a licensing agreement with Zeiss. Zeiss needs to sell lenses to folks with bodies, and Nikon could use a quick ramp of native Z-mount lenses. Zeiss could produce Loxias for the Z-mount very quickly since all that would be needed is a different rear barrel with different pins. Sigma seems a less likely partner since they want to compete with Nikon in bodies.

DIGLLOYD: absolutely. Nikon and Canon just do not have compelling systems in mirrorless and will not for years, the Canon RF 50mm f/1.2L USM ad Nikon Z7 notwithstanding.

The wildcard is this: lens adapters for Leica M lenses on Nikon mirrorless and lens adapters for Sony mirrorless lenses (at least Zeiss Loxia) on Nikon mirrorless. Then Nikon would have an immediate story which works for me.

I greatly prefer operating the Nikon Z7 over the Sony A7R III. While the Sony A7R IV will surely be improved, Sony is clueless about building cameras with the right ergonomics/haptics; that is a key strength of the Nikon Z7. In my view, the Nikon Z7 and Canon EOS R are already superior in ergonomic/haptic terms to any model Sony camera.

Claude F writes:

Thinking about camera lens future upgrade.

Stick with Sony, which I have with an adapted Canon 24-70. An excellent combination with stitching. Change over to Zeiss Loxia 25mm f/2.4 and Zeiss Loxia 35 35mm f/2, and trusting their stopped down performance will be able to work with a higher megapixel camera. Bail on Sony for the Fujifilm GFX. Wait and hope Canon delivers a pro grade high megapixel camera to couple with their new lenses.

Nikon came close but in the end disappointed with a not quite there system.

DIGLLOYD: my advice to anyone is to stand pat for six months, then reevaluate.

For the serious landscape shooter, the Fujifilm GFX-100 and/or the Fujifilm GFX-50R may be just the ticket, particularly the much more tolerable price of the latter. OTOH, weight and hiking distance and steep slopes can injure as I found out last month (my knee), so I’m thinking Zeiss Loxia and Zeiss ZM lenses on the Nikon Z7 would be just the ticket—lens adpater already exist for Leica M and Zeiss ZM lenses, and I have ordered one to test all the lenses I have on the Nikon Z7, particularly the Zeiss ZM 35mm f/1.4 Distagon.

Especially using focus stacking, the image quality at 42/45/50 megapixels with proper shot discipline is capable of imagery good to six feet wide. And if Sigma release a full frame true color sensor in a decent camera body or fixed-lens format, that rocks the boat some more. At 100 megapixels (coming in 2019 as the Fujifilm GFX-100), focus stacking is almost a hard requirement since the depth of field will be a stop less relative to the pixel size.

Zeiss Milvus 25mm f/1.2

Gilles P writes:

How do you feel about using the Nikon Z7, the adapter and a Zeiss Milvus in a handheld shooting scenario? Is such a combination useable or does the adapter make it unwieldy and awkward to use?

It’s clear to me that the Nikon Z7 won’t replace my D500 for action shooting, but it could well replace my Nikon D810 for handheld landscapes, as such a setup would provide some useful stabilization, not otherwise available for Zeiss lenses on a D810 or D850.

DIGLLOYD: last month I presented several pages on hanholding with IBIS using Zeiss Milvus / Zeiss Otus. Using the Nikon FTZ lens adapter is a bit clumsier than shooting directly on the D810 in terms of holding the rig, but not really an issue. But the Z7 is far better for focusing than the D810, since the OVF is all but useless except for sloppy work (OVF focusing is poor shot discipline), and a loupe on the rear LCD is far more awkward than using the excellent Nikon Z7 EVF. Large lenses will never handle as nice as compact ones like Zeiss Loxia, but IMO the Loxia lenses are too small.

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